Rick Warren and Fundamentalists

On December 2, 2005, while on Larry King Live, Rick Warren stated the following:

"No [I am not a Fundamentalist]. Actually, many journalists misunderstand the religious right is not a fundamentalist and a fundamentalist is not an evangelical. There are all kinds of fundamentalists, Larry, and they're all based on fear. There are Christian fundamentalists. There are Muslim...There are Muslim fundamentalists. I've met some Jewish fundamentalists. You know what there are secular fundamentalists. Secular fundamentalists they're all—all kinds of fundamentalists are based on fear. . . . I'm an evangelical. . . . Evangelicals would say three things. Evangelical comes from the Greek word which means good news. Evangel means good news. And, I believe that the Bible is the word of God. I believe that Jesus is who he said he was and I believe I should share the good news with other people. I do not believe in coercion. I believe in conversion. If you have to force it, it's not conversion."

Then, on January 10, 2006, a Philadelphia Inquirer story reported: "Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be 'one of the big enemies of the 21st century. Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism—they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other.'"

Finally, on January 29th, 2008, while on Comedy Central's The Colbert Report,
Warren casually remarked: "A Fundamentalist is someone who stops listening. There are Fundamentalist Christians. There are Fundamentalist Jews. There are Fundamentalist Muslims. Fundamentalist Atheists. Fundamental Secularists. It's an attitude that doesn't want to listen to anybody else."

These three blurbs have given more than enough reason for the church's self-proclaimed "watchman" to start hurling accusations at Warren in their ongoing efforts to convince the world that he is nothing less than an enemy of the cross, a God-hater, a false teacher, and a New Age deceiver. Consider these bizarre interpretations of Warren's comments:

"Rick Warren likened biblical fundamentalists to Muslim extremists and atheistic secularists. . . . This statement is a vicious libel against Christian fundamentalists. George Dollar, in his history of fundamentalism, defined it in this way: 'Historic fundamentalism is the literal interpretation of all the affirmations and attitudes of the Bible and the militant exposure of all non-biblical affirmations and attitudes'" (Way of Life).


"Listen to Southern Baptist Pastor Rick Warren [on The Colbert Report] describe Christians as "those that stopped listening. . . . it is an attitude that doesn’t want to listen to anybody else."   Listen carefully as the Inerrant Word of God is skillfully mocked as Rick Warren chuckles (Christian Research Net).

"Rick Warren's distaste for Christian fundamentalism as expressed in the Philadelphia Inquirer is a result of his distaste for the fundamentals of God's Word (Kjos Ministries)

"Rick Warren, likened Biblical fundamentalists to Muslim extremists and atheistic secularists" (The Christian Expositor)

"Rick Warren on the Colbert Report: Fundamentalist Christians no Different than Fundamentalist Muslims!" (True Discernment).

But is this an accurate interpretation of Warren's remarks? One need only take the time to actually listen to what he is saying in order to understand the meaning behind his words. But rather than approaching his statements calmly and rationally, the heresy-hunters have repeatedly ripped his remarks out of context and misrepresented them.


THE TRUTH

All Warren is saying here is that there is a certain kind of mindset often held by people who are more comfortable with hating, than loving; more interested in screaming than listening; more concerned with judging, than accepting. These people are often referred to as "Fundamentalists" in our current society/culture. They come in all kinds of different theological, sociological, and cultural colors, but they are all "Fundamentalists" in the negative way usually envisioned by society/culture when hearing that term. It doesn't matter what these Fundamentalists call themselves. Nor does it even matter if they are religious! They are "Fundamentalists" in that they don't care at all about what anyone else has to say about anything! They are closed-minded isolationists (mentally, emotionally, and psychologically). Talking to them, or trying to reason with them, is like trying to communicate with a brick wall.


THE CONFUSION

Confusion has resulted because the word "Fundamentalist" has come to mean two different things in society/culture. In other words, there are two different kinds of fundamentalists:

1) the technical, religious kind, which would actually include Warren, myself, most evangelical churches, certainly the entire Southern Baptist Convention, Calvary Chapel churches, and anyone else who holds to the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith (see "The Doctrinal Essentials of Christianity");

2) the more pejorative, negatively viewed kind society/culture often refers to as people of ANY religion/belief system who use their religion/beliefs to attack, hate, be intolerant of others, remain closed-minded to unfamiliar ideas, and stay cold-hearted to those who are not like them. Their goal is the manipulation of power, authoritarian influence, maintaining control over others, political/spiritual oppression, and domination by force, intimidation, or rules of dos and don'ts.

The world, of course, sees the second type of Fundamentalist most often in the Fundamentalist Muslim, who takes his/her mindset so far as to kill and destroy in the name of God. But we have Christian Fundamentalists, too. They are the ones who burn/ban books, express their views harshly and hatefully, and isolate themselves socially-culturally from the world, and who will not even entertain the idea of communicating thoughtfully and tolerantly with those who are not of the Body of Christ. In short, Fundamentalists of all kinds simply don't listen (hint to discernment ministries).

These types of people, whatever they might call themselves religiously (or irreligiously), are the same kinds of people at their core. And they are the ones to whom Warren is referring. He is making no condemnation of Christians who hold dear to their hearts the doctrinal essentials of the Christian faith once and for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3). That would be absurd since Warren himself holds to these very same beliefs (see my two articles Saddleback Church: The Cross, Sin, and Hell and The Doctrinal Essentials of Christianity—and Rick Warren
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THE ONGOING ATTACKS

What is most amazing is how Warren's critics have continued spreading the false notion that Warren somehow has demeaned, condemned and mocked "Fundamentalism" (as in the fundamentals of the Christian faith) in the face of rather clear language. Moreover, Saddleback Church has actually gone so far as to release an article in hopes of clearing up any misunderstandings! The article, titled Rick Warren On Fundamentalism, makes it extraordinarily clear that Warren was in no way belittling doctrinal fundamentalism or the doctrinal fundamentals of Christianity, declaring as follows:

"Within Christianity, there's a large group of believers who affirm that there are certain facts about our faith that must be embraced, even if it isn't popular to proclaim these facts as true. These are facts such as –

- Jesus was God in the flesh,
- God raised Jesus from the dead, and
- The Resurrection opened the singular path available for men and women to intimately and eternally connect with God.

These are among the fundamental truths of our Christian faith (or, to use another phrase, they are foundational truths to our faith). Now, if you believe that these fundamental truths are essential to the Christian faith, then you are a "fundamentalist" in the very basic sense of the word, and within that definition and context Saddleback Church is unapologetically fundamentalist."

Here we see Saddleback itself embracing the label Fundamentalist!

The article then refers to the other kind of Fundamentalist; the kind about Rick Warren is talking: "There is, however, another kind of fundamentalism that has nothing to do with fundamentals of the Christian faith; instead, it is about keeping the right rules in the right way order to please the right people. . . . This form of fundamentalism is, quite frankly, just another form of religion, one that diminishes the intimate relationship we have with God through Jesus Christ."


Clearly, Warren is has never, and is not now, slamming Fundamentalism as it applies to those Christians (Warren included) who embrace the fundamentals of the Christian faith.



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